Interview conducted March 2 2022
Interview published March 9 2022
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"Jonas is better than me in a lot of ways, but
he's not a better singer than I am."
New Horizon is a collaboration between
musical prodigy Jona Tee and lead vocalist Erik Grönwall,
one current and one former member of Swedish melodic metal band H.E.A.T.
But make no mistake, this new stuff is a real heavy/power metal blast,
and probably not what most people would expect if looking at what these
guys have put out prior to their March 11th album Gate Of The Gods.
An interview with Jona Tee was published
in December last year and as an opportunity rose to also talk to Mr. Grönwall
about the album Metal Covenant wasn't hard to convince to meet up with
him just over a week before release date.

Tobbe: For being a rock musician in these
days you're kind of young, if you know what I mean? A lot of guys are
getting old, you know. Still, you were struck by cancer a couple of years
ago. It's of course really unfortunate what happened, but let's focus
on today and let me simply ask you, how are you feeling now?
Erik: I feel really great. I just wanna be straight
with you that I have no issue with talking about it. You may ask whatever
you want to. So I feel very well. I have begun to work my body again
and started to work out again. It was one hell of a journey, it was
one hell of a slap, and a lot of perspectives and new insights. And
thanks to a donor, somewhere in the world, who is anonymous, I'm able
to sit here.
Tobbe: So, let's talk about New Horizon.
What were your first thoughts, really, when Jonas talked to you about
this record? Although the plan initially was that you were going to sing
on just a couple of songs.
Erik: I am probably the one, in Sweden within
rock music, who knows the least about power metal. You know, I have
never listened to that genre. But it's great to work with Jonas and
I think that he writes in a very melodic way. Some stuff from New Horizon
would work for H.E.A.T and vice versa.
If
you listen to the last H.E.A.T album, the song Victory for example,
it's a bit crossover and could be on the New Horizon album. So for me
it was, like, "Great to do something with Jonas. This will become
a great stepping stone from H.E.A.T to something else.".
But we had so much fun in the studio so it became
the entire album instead, and then it has developed along the road to
me and Jonas making music we think is fun to make. So New Horizon is
a window to put out good rock music. That's our goal.
Tobbe: I suspect that it's primarily H.E.A.T
fans that will check this out, initially, you know. But New Horizon's
music is power metal and heavy metal. How will you get those fans to hop
on this journey?
Erik: I think this will come naturally. You know,
New Horizon is a brand new band, yet we've seen pretty good response
on what we've put out so far and we already have quite a few followers.
With all the playlists opportunities there are today people know where
to go to get their heavy metal or their power metal. It's just like:
Spotify, heavy metal playlist, or whatever, you know. So I think there
will also be a new audience.
And I have noticed on my YouTube channel that
certain people who have never heard of either me, H.E.A.T or New Horizon,
first dig the YouTube channel and then start checking out New Horizon.
So I think there will be an evolution there, you know.
Tobbe: Power metal is often melodic and
is the melodic part in the music just something that has to be there for
you to be able to sing on an album? I'm not questioning your skills, but
rather mentally, you know.
Erik: Well, not really. You know, I dig heavier
music, actually. Even in H.E.A.T maybe I have leaned towards that, like,
"Please, let's do this one, and less AOR.". So, to me, you
know, Stronger Than Steel was just pure satisfaction.
And then you have all the more melodic stuff,
and that is what I think contribute to something new with New Horizon.
Jonas is really an old school power metal fan. So he brings that in
and I come in pretty ignorant and just lay down the vocals, you know.
But I could probably sing everything unless it's parts with growl. I
can't do that. Kind of like that. So, everything else, well, that's
just fun.
Tobbe: Jonas had built pretty much the entire
album before you came in. So besides discussing your vocals and vocal
melodies, was there anything you could actually affect?
Erik: Well, you know, you do your interpretation
of it. You have to avoid something I call doing/singing. You know, when
you sing without really being there, without being present, but you
do it because you kind of have to do it. So, you have to find your vein.
I
recall some stuff I did in a way that Jonas hadn't written it and he
was like "You know, that's even better.". So we spice it up
a little bit, but, you know, to 99,9 percent it's Jonas who has written
music and lyrics and stuff.
Tobbe: To what extent does he lay down vocals
on the demos, in order for the singer to understand what he is searching
for?
Erik: Well, he puts quite a lot of effort in
that, so that I know where it should be aggressive or soft or whatever.
And that helps a whole lot. You know, you listen and learn. Timing and
stuff is very important.
Tobbe: And then you just destroy Jonas'
vocals, right?
Erik: Jonas is better than me in a lot of ways,
but he's not a better singer than I am. [Laughs] But I claim that he
is a musical genius. You know, producer, songwriter. He has the whole
package. And, you know, he's a good singer, but if he was better than
I then I would have nothing to do. So that's why I got to do the job.
[Laughs] And we work well together and Jonas is one of my closest friends.
So it's not only work, but we talk almost every day.
Tobbe: And I think that's one of the reasons
why people think it's strange that you quit H.E.A.T, you know. I guess
you can easily understand those thoughts. Could you elaborate on this
a little bit?
Erik: I just found out that I wanted to do something
else, and tour less, and try some different things in life. We had delivered
all the albums that we were gonna deliver according to our record deal.
A new deal was to be negotiated and I saw a window. And I believe in
doing things that I think is fun, so I wanted to try other things.
The irony here is that I became sick, and I don't
regret leaving, but I became sick and reached the understanding that
I didn't wanna do anything else rather than touring, rather than doing
shows, rather than singing. So that's the dark irony in this. With that
being said, we are here now with New Horizon, so things will turn out
great anyway. [Laughs]
Tobbe: Jonas isn't against bringing New
Horizon out on the road, yet he's not interested in a club tour or starting
over and build things from the beginning. What's your take on touring?
Erik: Well, I agree with him. We were pretty
clear from the beginning with New Horizon, that if we were gonna do
gigs we would do it because it's fun. There are no must dos, you know
what I mean? I won't start crying if Jonas prioritize H.E.A.T and is
out playing with H.E.A.T, you know.
But
we have gotten some offers to the table, that are not official and that
are not confirmed yet, but we're thinking about it. Stuff between different
touring periods and so. But the goal is that we're gonna go out, in
some way, but we won't do, like, a lavatory tour in the U.K., you know.
[Laughs]
Tobbe: Well, it's just that requirements
change. You're certainly not old, but you're neither 20 anymore.
Erik: Absolutely. You know, when we went out
on the Address The Nation tour it was like living the dream, even if
we maybe played in a rathole, you know. That didn't matter, and we didn't
give a shit, because we were able to be out on tour, with free beer,
and who doesn't want that when you're 20 or 25? [Laughs] Today we're
looking for more comfort and it's more like a job now rather than a
bit more of a party.
Tobbe: The album was recorded quite some
time ago and to what extent have you guys already started looking on a
second album?
Erik: I think we have 5 songs done for the next
album. Well, I said we, but it's rather Jonas who just comes up with
stuff all the time. But it's gonna be even heavier. Great songs. I haven't
laid down the vocals yet, but it's with Jonas' demo vocals now. So I
guess it will be out in a year or so.
Tobbe: Have you considered going back and
doing something on TV? I mean, you've done that before, although I can't
remember when to be honest.
Erik: It was in 2009. Well, I've done some stuff
on TV later than that, but I realize that it's Idol who is still on
people's mind. Well, I don't know about this, really. TV is fun, if
it's under the right circumstances. I can tell you that I've been getting
various offers for a few years in a row now to do Mello (The domestic
Swedish qualifying round for the European Song Contest). [Laughs]
I'm not one who opposes the format itself, but
I won't go in and do it just for the cause of being seen. I mean, the
song has to be right, and if I go there I wanna win. Still, if the music
is great, and I have fun while doing it, and I can stand for it, then
maybe the end result doesn't matter, although in the end the goal would
be to win.
But
I would never go in to just bring back my name to the public again,
and just do a random song, and then go out on some lame ass tour. It's
a package you get there, because you do Mello, to be seen, then you
go out on tour in the summer, and then it goes away and you have to
find something new, like doing Mello again maybe. I don't feel an urge
to do it, but it would be fun to do it, and I don't oppose it, but I'm
rather for it, if the song is right.
Tobbe: I guess you're kind of a recognizable
face in your home country even to this day.
Erik: But I think it has become more and more
so because of the music I do and for H.E.A.T, rather than just being
known for being on TV like in the beginning. Which I totally get that
I was. I was just singing cover songs and hadn't released anything that
was mine, So I was more known for being on TV, rather than being an
artist.
This career of being an artist takes time to
build up. You know, 12 years with H.E.A.T and now we're doing something
else. The majority of my career has been with H.E.A.T, and that's why
my defection is something I need now. I feel like "What else is
out there, before it's too late?", if you know what I mean?
Tobbe: I think many people still remember
what a surprise it was when you joined H.E.A.T. I wouldn't say it was
chocking, but very unexpected nevertheless. It came right out of the blue
for people outside the inner circle.
Erik: Exactly. There were many doubts and a
lot of stuff there in the beginning, but I think we managed to convert
most people. And what's funny now when Kenny [Leckremo] is back is that
fans who were there during the first Kenny era, and maybe didn't like
me joining the band, have come back. And the new fans also think that
it's great. So it feels great. And I and Kenny have an awesome relation
too. It's almost like a wrestling match when you high five each other,
you know.
Tobbe: So when Kenny quits again, are you
ready to come back?
Erik: Well, let's see about that. We're already
joking about it, like "Should we go out with 2 singers?".
No, we have really not talked about it, but it's just me and Jonas who
are joking about it. But, well, you never know.
Tobbe: Maybe it would be a little delicate
for him. I mean, Kenny is the band's singer now and you would probably
occupy a lot of space on stage, I would say.
Erik: Well, Kenny has his feet on the ground.
There is no prestige between us. Some people like Kenny more, some people
like me more, some people don't care and just see it as H.E.A.T and
think it's good. You know, it's probably the way it should be. I mean,
do you like Sammy Hagar or David Lee Roth the most? Do you like Bon
Scott or Brian Johnson? I mean, Brian Johnson is still the new guy to
some people even if he has been in the band for over 40 years now. [Laughs]
So this is just a common thing in the music industry.
Tobbe: But I guess the chance is greater
to see you and Kenny on the same stage than it is to see David Lee Roth
and Sammy Hagar sharing the same stage again.
Erik: That I can guarantee. Absolutely.
Tobbe: So, musicals and stuff like that.
Any thoughts about that?
Erik: Same thing there. I thing it's fun, for
the most part. As long as it's music that I like. Jesus Christ Superstar
is amazing music, so that's fun. But I have a hard time seeing myself
dressed as a cat in Cats, you know. [Laughs] That won't happen. We Will
Rock You is also a fun musical.
So doors are open, yet more now than ever I feel
that I need to stand for it. Maybe I bent over a little bit more in
the early days of my career just to be able to work with music, but
now when I'm there maybe I at least ask them to put on a condom before
they put it in. [Laughs]

Related links:
www.newhorizon.se
www.facebook.com/newhorizonworld
www.instagram.com/newhorizonworld

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